The Matrix Revolutions

[assyrix]

Watched Revolutions yesterday, and boy what a precious piece of p o o p. By far the worst in the trilogy. The first half hour is heaps of hemming and hawing, followed by a ridiculous CGI battle (the sort of those you click away at the beginning of a c r a p PSOne game), followed by an atrociously acted drippy death scene. The half-decent battle scene in the end couldn't save the film and the ending perfectly ruined it.

I sincerely hope that this is the last thing we are ever going to see of the Matrix and that the Wankoffsky buggers don't do a George Lucas and bother us with an even s h i t t i e r prilogy.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 07, 2003 07:33 AM: Message edited by: assyrix ]</font>

[The Cavity]

Just saw it, spoilers for those who haven't...
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On it's own, it's a fairly enjoyable action movie with some cool special effects and ideas. As a part of the Matrix trilogy, well...

It mostly ignored Reloaded. The filmmakers decided to focus on the Sentinel assault instead of elaborating on the five or six plot twists from the end of the last film and throws some Jesus and Rama-Kandra bullshyt in there while providing half-assed explanations for everything else. I guess humanity's creative wellspring has finally dried up - we can't make up mythological ideas anymore, so we must rely on those of the past.

I agree, the ending was terrible. And I actually found it very silly and politically correct. They just "make peace" with the machines. Oh, I'm sorry, wasn't the Zionites purpose to crush the machine empire and free the human race?

'Phanton Menace' it ain't. But oh Lord, what could have been...

[untamed_aggression]

Originally posted by belovedmonster:
once youve seen the action slow down and rotate round someone the once i dont wanna then see it another 10 times...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dude, don't even get me started on House of the Dead...

For the record, wasn't that keen on the original, won't see the sequels unless I'm really bored.

[Generic Skinhead]

I thought Revolutions was great.

The original is a classic in my book. You can't make a better action flick then that.

Theres nothing wrong with the acting in any of them...godamn...I can't believe some of the stuff I hear on this place!

If anyone on this board (even me) ever does anything even approaching the quality of the Matrix I will probably instantly die of shock.

[belovedmonster]

Theres nothing wrong with the acting in any of them

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Im not into acting in the slighest, i couldnt tell you what was a good performance vs an average one. But what i can say is the only time i have positively cringed at acting was watching Keano Reeves in the matrix. And although critics usually dont have a clue what they talk about...from what ive read Keano is pretty much infamous in Hollywood for always looking confused and dumb when ever he delivers a line, something so apparently clear in this movie.

I think what annoys me in general about the movie is that it is too cool for its own good. I know the movie has some substance, I know that... but when i watch any of it or hear anyone go on about it just seems like its a movie for young males who like cool comic book visuals rather than a well written, tense action scifi movie. All the emphasis seems to be placed on the cool sunglasses and the cool leather clothes and the cool special effects. No one seems to mention that it has an interesting premise in the idea that computers have created a synthetic world in humans minds.

Gimmy 10 years to get my foot in the door and ill show you what a proper sci fi action movie looks like [img]wink.gif[/img]

[Kigo]

I've got to agree that I too am surprised how much grief the original is getting here. Yeah, Keanu is wooden but you go along with it because the rest of the film is so good. I was disappointed with the sequels, but that's not to say I thought they were bad films. I thought they were good, but coming off the back of the first one they were never going to be as good without doing something really special.

The first problem I found was that they closed the first film. It ended, and everyone who watched it thought that was it. Then you find out that there's gonna be two more. How are they gonna do that? Expectations are immediately high. I think if people knew before hand that it was going to be a trilogy (and I know they only got the money for the first one and sold the next two later) they would have been more open to what was going to happen in the whole thing, a bit like Lord of the Rings. I think most people regard the first as a seperate entity and the follow ups as 'add-ons'.

I also got sick of them introducing cool characters and doing sweet fa with them. Seraph would have put up a pretty good fight against those agents, but they just skipped that bit. The french guy was supposed to be powerful with some cool hench men, but he and them just passed by without much notice. The twins promised so much. Even that train guy was quite cool, but again all he did was drive a train! Too much time spent on raves and nip.ple twisting meant the weird brothers left out the cool stuff we, or at least I, wanted to see.

Even after all that I still thought the films were good, but I was just let down by a poor ending!

I definitely need an exit! [img]graemlins/cell.gif[/img]

[ac_01]

Originally posted by Generic Skinhead:
If anyone on this board (even me) ever does anything even approaching the quality of the Matrix I will probably instantly die of shock.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Doesn't mean we can't criticise.

ps - Got a spare $100mill...? [img]wink.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 08, 2003 07:00 PM: Message edited by: ac_01 ]</font>

[Vertino]

Loved the first Matrix so much I saw it 5 times at the pictures! (had one of those month movie passes)... was it original? Nope! Its all been done before... check out early Jackie Chan, John Woo, Manga, Will Gibson, The Invisibles, etc...

but did that matter? NOPE! its still an amazing piece of cinema! Can't believe how many people are slagging it off now... bunch-of-c0ck-monsters!

As for the sequels, I can't help but agree that it started to set events up in reloaded, but revolutions just didn't pull the punches!!!
Shame really... still a visual treat!

san dimas high school football rules!

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 09, 2003 06:51 AM: Message edited by: Vertino ]</font>

[miker]

the original Matrix was pretty much a sleeper IMO ... it was surprisingly "excellent, dude!"

the other two do appear to have disappeared into a$$ land, although Reloaded was the pivot and Revolutions was the deciding factor.

I really thought the sequels may have attempted to wake the audience, and carry on what the original had begun.

Instead we get some very good action sequences and abstract metaphors that look like they came out of a film student without much imagination.

In the end, I can't work out if they are presenting the universe as unified, or dualist, or just unified with dualist elements, etc.. and there are not enough clues for me to really care. But perhaps that is the point. The filmmaker's have no opinion, or are too afraid to present it.

[belovedmonster]

i would go along with it being a sleeper hit... if i remember rightly it didnt become this "masterpeice" until it was seen widely on video. When it came out it got good reviews but the general cult following its got now wasnt there.

I think another thing about the film that makes it prone to criticsm is the way the effects have aged so badly. By that im refering to the fact they became the cool thing to have and just about music video copied that time freeze rotating round the guy thing, and just about every action film copied bullet time effects in one way or another. In the space of about a year after the film came out the effects had become totaly naff and a total clishe. I know thats not the matrixs fault but thats just a fact now.